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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: I still don't see your priorities
Date Sat, 04 Jul 2015 19:22:32 GMT

In the couple of months since you first suggested that JavaX might become an Apache Project,
there have been many discussions about new projects entering the incubator.  There are also
many completed and accepted proposals for incubating projects.  Have you observed any of that?

Have you looked at the proposal template and examples of successful proposals, along with
discussions here, so that you know what it would take for JavaX to be approved as an incubator
project?  Have you drafted such a proposal and in the process of its development, enlisted
a champion and some mentors to help in proposal refinement and in bootstrapping an incubating

My impression is that you thought it was too much work and do not see the point.  You also
raised conditions that you were told don't work here and would need to be revised.  OK, you
had very early indication that the Apache incubation process might not be for you.  Failing
early sounds like a good result in that case.

That's fine, you don't have to go through what it takes to get on the Apache Project learning

But all of the projects here have done that work in one manner or another, and the conditions
are satisfied for those projects, including any incubation they had to work through.  You
are free to march in your own parade of course.  For the Apache parade, the music is already

Whatever you do, have fun!

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Reich [] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 09:53
Subject: I still don't see your priorities

You wait for something to exist, and THEN you support it?

How about taking something good that WANTS TO EXIST, and supporting that?


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