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From Roman Shaposhnik <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Date Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:19:39 GMT
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:13 AM, C├ędric Champeau
<> wrote:
> I made this remark to myself, which is that too many people still think that
> Groovy is only a dynamic language. I think it's a problem because
> it's not, and some people really dislike dynamic languages. When they read
> something like "the Groovy dynamic object-oriented programming language"
> (from the Apache blog post)
> may not realize that it's much more than that (it was only dynamic a few
> years ago, but it has evolved a lot, and now a static language as much as
> it is a dynamic one). So I would lean towards rephrasing the first paragraph
> of the proposal from "It is a primarily dynamic language with features
> similar to those of Python, Ruby, Perl, and Smalltalk."
> to "It is a programming language with features similar to those of Python,
> Ruby, Java, Perl, and Smalltalk."
> And if possible, everything we see "dynamic programming language", remove
> the mention to "dynamic" to just "programming language". What do you think?
> It's not that I don't like the dynamic
> programming aspects of Groovy of course, but I think we should not cut off
> part of our user base just by making erroneous statements.

Sure. That looks good to me. That being said -- what's written on the proposal
is only important to the IPMC so I don't think it'll be a huge change in outside
perception one way or another.


P.S. That said, I never stop being amazed at what kind of 'karma' outside folks
associate with mundane things like being mentioned on an IPMC proposal.
To me, what happens *after* you get accepted and how you project your community
to the outside world is way more important than. But then again, may be I've
been at a sausage factory for too long ;-)

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