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From "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ross.Gard...@microsoft.com>
Subject RE: Wave community may need our help
Date Fri, 13 Mar 2015 07:14:46 GMT
Don't worry Christian. Same thing for me last month, and someone else the month before.

Signing the report is not a replacement for actually being involved. Sounds like you are doing
a great job.

Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: Christian Grobmeier<mailto:grobmeier@apache.org>
Sent: ‎3/‎12/‎2015 11:39 PM
To: Roman Shaposhnik<mailto:rvs@apache.org>; general@incubator.apache.org<mailto:general@incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Upayavira<mailto:uv@odoko.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Wave community may need our help

Hi Roman,

you might have noticed, that one of the mentors (me) were actively
asking for this report. I simply forgot to sign it, which does not
happen often to me. In example, the last report was signed (Dec).

More mentors are always welcome; but its not this podling is out on his
own. From mentoring activities, I even joined a Google Hangout to
clarify questions, and releases were reviewed.

When it comes to the situation of this podling, it hasn't changed much.
I wonder why you think Wave would turn the corner.

>From time to time I start the retirement discussion at the podling as I
don't think Wave will get enough momentum. There is a small community,
but they cannot dedicate enough time. My personal opinion is that it
will not make graduation at any time, and i told that before. I am happy
if the project turns out otherwise.

That being said, I am still on mailing lists, i am still helping out, I
just wasn't there in the past 10 days for personal reasons.

Again, I wrote this response to help giving the right impression on the
podling, not to put your good intentions down to help. I am really happy
if somebody else would help as mentor, as well as with log4cxx and
ripple.

Thanks,

Christian


--
  Christian Grobmeier
  grobmeier@gmail.com

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 00:48, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Hi!
>
> all throughout my tenure I was keeping an eye
> on Wave trying to figure out how we can help
> that community. The poddling has been incubating
> close to 5 years and for a long time they've struggled
> with the basics of producing the release and growing
> the community beyond its core.
>
> I was extremely excited to see that this reporting cycle
> they seem to be finally turning the corner. Unfortunately,
> next thing I saw was that the report wasn't signed off
> by mentors.
>
> I totally understand that we all get busy (hey -- I was
> supposed to submit the final report yesterday -- totally
> didn't happen). It is just that if the community is really
> on the verge of turning the corner I think it really behoves
> us to help them as much as we can.
>
> Thoughts on how we can revitalize mentoring around
> Wave?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.

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