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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Zest pTLP proposal
Date Tue, 10 Feb 2015 07:58:32 GMT

I am also pleased to see your effort, and likewise comments/edits on page
are not available to me, so I post here...

I am wondering why there is anything about the committers at all?

   1. All committers on the project are also subscribed to the private@ ML
   of a pTLP
   2. Any member of the community can nominate new committers. The vote is
   conducted as usual (with only PMC members having binding votes) however it
   is expected that PMC members are going to vote last and simply validate the
   consensus of the community.


especially since a few paragraphs earlier, it is said;

"committers can be chosen however the community decides" and "The Board
doesn't care about committership, so the pTLP can do whatever it wants in
that regard."

It seems a bit inconsistent.

// Niclas

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:

> Hi!
> an existing open source community seeking
> to enter ASF has decided to try an alternative
> route and participate in the pTLP experiment.
> Please refer to:
> for an up-to-date record and documentation on
> what pTLP is and how it relates to the traditional
> Incubation process.
> At this point we would like to invite IPMC to help
> us with shaping up the pTLP proposal to a point
> where we can successfully submit it to the ASF board.
> Please comment on the Apache Zest pTLP proposal
> and feel free to provide your feedback directly on
> the ComDev wiki:
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer - New Energy for Java

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