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From "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <>
Subject Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment
Date Thu, 29 Jan 2015 22:44:17 GMT
+1. Agree with Greg.

Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Stein <>
Reply-To: "" <>
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 10:28 AM
To: "" <>
Subject: Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment

>There are a few things that I would suggest for "next steps":
>1) Draft a template resolution. Starting in the wiki is fine, but you'll
>want to involve board@ when you have your first draft done. This will also
>start the discussion among the Directors (recall: the Board hasn't even
>agreed to try this!), and may produce some refinements.
>2) Create a ComDev page discussing what it means to be a "provisional
>The disclaimers/warnings/release-naming should likely mirror what we do
>incubating podlings.
>3) Note that I use "provisional", since "probationary" implies you got in
>I wouldn't really worry about time frames. This will be a very subjective
>process, and every project is different. It will be hard to make a solid
>determination on day X in the future. If I were to put my thumb in the
>I'd say 6 and 12 months, rather than your 3/6.
>On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> as I mentioned in a different thread, I feel really
>> passionate about championing the pTLP experiment.
>> To that end, here's what's going to happen shortly:
>>   #1 a couple of new projects that feel equally enthusiastic
>>        about trying a pTLP route (and have a level of support
>>        from a few board members) will submit a pTLP proposal
>>        to the board.
>>   #2 based on how #1 goes we will try to establish a path
>>        for existing (willing!) podlings to be converted to pTLP.
>>        A solicitation and details of what to expect will be posted
>>        on general@ with the expectations of having a couple
>>        existing podlings as part of the experiment
>> In about 3 months time frame, if #1 and #2 are moving in the
>> right direction, I'd like to start offering pTLP *option* for new
>> communities seeking to join ASF. By that time I hope to have
>> some amount of documentation detailing the process and pros/cons
>> compared to the existing IPMC led model.
>> In about 6 months time frame I would like to have enough details
>> in place to submit to IPMC and start a discussion on whether
>> pTLP is a viable model that needs to be encouraged and what
>> does it mean for IPMC and ASF Incubation process.
>> For all practical purposes, consider me a self-appointed pTLP
>> champion and please, please help along as much as you can!
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
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