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From Stian Soiland-Reyes <>
Subject [pTLP] Apache Commons sub-mailing lists discussion
Date Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:39:51 GMT
Relating to IncubatorV2 and pTLP proposals - on Apache Commons I seem
to have spurred a discussion about making sub-mailing lists (And thus
forming sub-communities) - but keep the formalities on the general

(email below)

My slight concern (even though I would benefit from the proposal :))
is that this is in danger of forming a "mini incubator" with less
clear guidance and follow-up:

The pTLP proposal has not mentioned what would be the process for
projects with a sponsor different from Incubator (e.g. which don't
aspire to become TLPs) - presumably they would usually have mentors
from and report to the parent project?

I don't see any proposals with "Apache Commons" as the sponsor at

.. is that because Commons already have a lightweight entry path with
its sandbox?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gilles <>
Date: 16 January 2015 at 00:47
Subject: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML
To: Commons Developers List <>


In the discussion that started about RDF, it seems that the
traffic volume is a stumbling block.
[For some time now, it has been a growing nuisance, and the
usual dismissal about filters won't change the fact: Setting
up a filter that will redirect stuff to /dev/null is a waste
of bandwidth.]

If different ML are created, people interested in everything
can subscribe _once_, and nothing will change for them.
For people who spend a lot of time just deleting dozens messages
and notifications a day, it will be a relief.

Maintaining community conversation is not a problem: just
create an "" ML for things that
need input form a larger audience (like votes).

Best regards,

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