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From James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
Subject Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...
Date Sat, 31 Jan 2015 15:55:49 GMT
Are there guidelines for these "usual considerations"?

On Saturday, January 31, 2015, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:44 AM, James Carman
> <james@carmanconsulting.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Is there a "standard" within the incubator about how we go about
> > getting the appropriate forms filled out when we want to incubate a
> > project from GitHub?  GitHub fosters a sort of fly-by contribution
> > model (and that's a good thing), but it makes donating the code a bit
> > troublesome, because we need to make sure that all (to a certain
> > degree?) of the contributors do, in fact want to donate the code they
> > contributed to the foundation.
>
> Simple answer: no. It is up to you to get ICLA/CCLA/SGA as appropriate
> for all contributors based on the usual considerations of contribution
> size, copyright ownership, and provenance clarity. if you have some
> stray commits that you can't cover, you can either reimplement, or
> make an argument that are below the threshold of concern. The github
> metadata helps a bit, but since you have no guarantee that the
> committer is the author, there's no possible way to see this as
> automated. The fact that code is published under the AL does _not_
> make it automatically code that you can pull in no matter what else.
> We require a positive intent to contribute the code to the foundation.
>
> >
> > Note that this problem isn't necessarily unique to GitHub, but Git
> > itself somewhat highlights the issue because contributions from
> > outside parties (pull requests) do maintain metadata about their
> > original authors.  With SVN, typically someone with "karma" has to do
> > the commit and it gets tagged with their identity, so the audit trail
> > goes cold (comments can contain attributions, but that's hard to
> > report on).
> >
> > Anyway, just looking for some guidance here.  We are trying to move
> > TinkerPop forward and how exactly we go about getting the forms filled
> > out properly is somewhat of a blocker.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James Carman, Assistant Secretary
> > Apache Software Foundation
> >
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