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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Podlings should be in charge of their mentors (was: Incubator report sign-off)
Date Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:36:18 GMT
On Monday, January 5, 2015, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm resending Alan's proposal with a new subject as I think it
> deserves more attention.
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > ...Podlings would be required to have a minimum of two active mentors.
> A mentor is free to become inactive
> > but must explicitly state this else the mentor risks being removed for
> not performing their duties.  Podlings that
> > do not have the minimum of two active mentors are put on hold until they
> find enough mentors to fill the quota.
> > Being put on hold means that no committers can be added, no PPMC members
> can be added, and no
> > releases can be performed.  It does not stop development...
>
> I like it very much...it's a small, reversible step that puts the
> burden on podlings and mentors, which are the ones who should be
> concerned about podlings going forward.
>
> It's also consistent with podlings having to find mentors to join the
> Incubator - they just have to keep on making sure their mentors are
> active, or ask for new ones when needed.


> As for measuring the mentors activity, I suggest simply adding a
> question to the podling reports, "who are your two active mentors and
> are you happy with their activity" along with requiring report
> sign-off from those two mentors.


I like this idea, except putting the full responsibility of finding new
mentors on the shoulders of the podling. Asking for mentors is easy getting
a response seems to be difficult for the smaller projects. Don't forget we
voted and accepted the podling, so we have at least part of the
responsibility for making mentors available

I am very much afraid it will endanger our smaller less popular projects.
In order to stay "safe" this requires at least 3 mentors at all times in
order not to block the podling...3 mentors are surely ok for bigger
project, but a bit overkill for small ones.

Maybe we should relate the number of mentors to the size of the community
instead of a fixed number.

just my thoughts.
jan i


> -Bertrand
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