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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework [RE-SUBMISSION]
Date Sat, 10 Jan 2015 06:18:19 GMT
This still only has 3 committers.

How is the project going to function with such a small group?  I don't see
that there has been a realistic answer to this question.



On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez <okrammarko@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Over the last 2 weeks, TinkerPop's proposal has been worked on with
> support from:
>  * David Nalley (champion)
> * Rich Bowen (mentor)
> * Hadrian Zbarcea (mentor)
> * Daniel Gruno (mentor)
> * Marko Rodriguez (submitting on behalf of TinkerPop)
>
> We feel it is now in prime shape from submission to vote. Enjoy!.
> (URL to wiki version: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal)
>
>
> A. Abstract
>
> TinkerPop <http://tinkerpop.com/> is a graph computing framework written
> in Java. A graph <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_%28mathematics%29> is
> a data structure composed of vertices and edges and is useful for modeling
> complex domains with arbitrary relations (edges, links, lines) between
> entities (vertices, objects, dots). TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> provides a core API that
> graph system vendors can implement. There are various types of graph
> systems including in-memory graph libraries, OLTP graph databases, and OLAP
> graph processors (see On Graph Computing
> <http://markorodriguez.com/2013/01/09/on-graph-computing/> for more
> information). Once the core interfaces are implemented, the underlying
> graph system can be queried using the graph traversal language Gremlin and
> processed withTinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>-enabled
> algorithms. For many, TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is seen as the JDBC
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Database_Connectivity> of the graph
> computing community.
>
> B. Proposal
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was formed in
> 2009 and is currently in the milestone series of 3.0.0. From the start,
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has provided its
> software open source and free to use for which ever reason (commercial or
> otherwise). Initially the license was BSD, but as of TinkerPop3
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3>, the license was changed
> to Apache2. The TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> team
> is composed of developers, evangelists, and representatives from graph
> system vendors (see TinkerPop Contributors
> <http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/#tinkerpop-contributors> for
> more information). TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has
> done its best to remain vendor agnostic and works closely with all vendors
> to ensure that the constructs within TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> are able to accommodate the
> requirements of the underlying graph system. To date, 12 "TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> recognized" graph system
> vendors provide TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> implementations.
> We believe that by joining The Apache Software Foundation, our vendors,
> users, and contributors will feel more comfortable in terms of legal
> protected, in terms of wider-adoption, and in terms of project stability.
>
> C. Background
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has had steady,
> active development since 2009 when it was founded. Over the years, the
> Gremlin query language within TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has been adopted by various
> JVM languages and as such, there exists Gremlin-Groovy, Gremlin-Scala,
> Gremlin-Clojure, Gremlin-JavaScript
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaScript>, and the like. In many
> ways, Gremlin is seen as a traversal style that can be readily adopted
> within the programming constructs of the developer's native language ---
> both on and off the JVM. TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is not bound to the JVM in
> that developers wishing to interact with a TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>-enabled graph system can
> leverage Gremlin Server which provides "over the wire" communication as
> well as the entry point for non-JVM language bindings. TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is being used is production
> graph-based applications around the world and is only getting better with
> age.
>
> D. Rationale
>
> The graph computing space has grown over the years to encompass numerous
> graph database and graph processing systems. TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was created as a unifying
> framework for interoperability, language standardization, and data model
> standardization. This framework makes it simple to "plug and play" the
> back-end graph implementation without affecting the developer's code. This
> is analogous to the way in which the JDBC allows users to swap relational
> databases while keeping the same programming interface. TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> also brings together OLTP
> systems (graph databases) and OLAP systems (graph processors) by providing
> a single query language (Gremlin) for executing graph algorithms
> transparently over either type of system. The seamless support of
> single-machine systems and distributed systems provides an identical
> end-user experience within the boundaries of the space and time constraints
> of the underlying graph system.
>
> E. Initial Goals
>
> The goal of this proposal is to migrate TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to The Apache Software
> Foundation to
>
>    1. get more exposure to the project
>    2. legally protect the developers and contributors of the project
>    3. ensure that TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has
>    a vendor-neutral, stable home for the future
>
>
> F. Current Status
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is planning to
> release TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA
> early 2015. We would like to release TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA at the Apache
> Software Foundation.
>
> G. Meritocracy
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> already has an
> established community that values meritocracy. Anyone is welcome to
> contribute to TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> and
> voice their opinions/thoughts on the direction of the project. If an
> individual provides beneficial pull requests, documentation updates,
> theoretical ideas, etc. then they are asked to join TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> as committers. Moreover,
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is a business
> friendly community. It provides a forum where vendors collaborate, via
> individual representatives, by contributing ideas, code and content.
>
> We believe the values of the community align well with the ASF, and we are
> willing to adapt our practices when necessary.
>
> H. Community
>
> The TinkerPop mailing list
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gremlin-users> has 1500+
> subscribers with a flow of approximately 10 emails a day. In addition to
> the initial committers there are about two dozen folks that have
> contributed code to the project, and 1/2 of those are from Graph vendors.
> Note that there are individuals that participate in the TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> ecosystem by providing
> language bindings and system implementations. While not contributing to the
> core codebase per se, they supportTinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> via their software and
> lecture outreach.
>
> I. Core developers
>
> The initial committer list is small, and we hope to grow that into a
> larger, vibrant community at the Apache Software Foundation.
>
> J. Alignment
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is licensed
> Apache2. The OLAP reference implementation that distributes with TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is based on Hadoop
> <http://hadoop.apache.org/> and Giraph <http://giraph.apache.org/>. There
> has been a push from vendors and commercial organizations interested in
> ensuring TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has the
> legal support of a software foundation. We believe The Apache Software
> Foundation to be a great home for TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>.
>
> K. Known Risks & Abandoned projects
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is currently at
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.M6. There
> is a significant amount of code developed since TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s inception. We have done
> our best to secure CLAs from contributors. To date did not have any legal
> or political issues. TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has 12 official graph
> vendors that maintain or support a TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> implementation for their
> system. If, lets say, 75% of those vendors decide against providing a
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> interface, then
> this would be detrimental to TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s efforts. With that, it is
> very important that TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> remain neutral and engaged
> with vendors.
>
> L. Inexperience with Open Source
>
> The primary developers of TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> have been producing
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> open source code
> and releases in full public view since 2009 via both our GitHub
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub> repository and our public
> mailing lists. We pride ourselves in professional software, documentation,
> and aesthetics. With its integration to numerous graph systems in the
> market, we see TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> as
> a masterpiece in the open source space. We are working with both open
> source and commercial entities to ensure a solid, respected product.
>
> M. Homogeneous Developers
>
> The initial set of committers all hail from different employers.
>
> N. Reliance on Salaried Developers
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is open source
> and no individual is paid for their contributions except for our logo
> designer. All the logos and documentation graphics are released Apache2.
>
> O. Relationships with Other Apache Projects
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> currently
> leverages Hadoop, Giraph, and in the near future, will integrate with
> Spark <https://spark.apache.org/>. Internally, the project leverages
> Maven3, Apache Configuration, and Apache Commons.
>
> P. An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is interested in
> The Apache Software Foundation for the legal support and protection it can
> offer our developers. Numerous large software organizations have urged
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to join a
> foundation so that they may more easily provide contributors from their
> organization and moreover, maintain confidence in building products atop
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>. With that said,
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> does respect the
> Apache Software Foundation brand and believes that by joining The Apache
> Software Foundation, we will further boost the recognition and prestige of
> our product. Finally, note that a TinkerPop book
> <http://www.tinkerpopbook.com/> is slated for 2015. Combining the Apache
> Software Foundation and a long awaited book should ensure a new uptake of
> contributors, users, vendors, and promoters.
>
> Q. Documentation
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> takes pride in
> its documentation:
> AsciiDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AsciiDoc>
> http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/
> JavaDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaDoc> (core)
> http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/core/
> JavaDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaDoc> (full)
> http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/full/
>
> R. Initial Source
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is currently
> hosted on GitHub <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub>:
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/.
>
> The following repositories would like to be migrated to ASF.
> TinkerPop3 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3>
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3
> Blueprints (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>)
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints
> Pipes (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>)
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/pipes
> Frames (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/frames
> Gremlin (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>)
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin
> Rexster (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>)
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/rexster
>
> S. Source & Intellectual Property Submission Plan
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has required CLAs
> from contributors in the past to ensure solid IP provenance. TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> plans to submit a Software
> Grant for the content in the following repositories:
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3
>
> We plan to transfer to the ASF the TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> trademark as well as the
> commissioned artwork for TinkerPop
> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> logos and the
> http://tinkerpop.com and http://tinkerpop.org domains.
>
> T. External Dependencies
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> relies on a
> number of open source dependencies. We believe these to comply with the
> third-party licensing guidelines. If any dependencies are unfit, we will
> make the necessary changes.
>
> U. Cryptography
>
> None.
>
> V. Required Resources
>
> W. Mailing Lists
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> requests the
> following mailing list:
> User Mailing List
> users@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org
> Developer Mailing List
> dev@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org
> Private Mailing List
> private@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org
> Commits Mailing List
> commits@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org
>
> X. Subversion Directory
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> will use
> subversion for it’s website and requests:
>
>    - https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tinkerpop
>
>
> Y. Git Repository
>
> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> wishes to have
> the following created:
>
>    - https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tinkerpop.git
>
> And to have all of these mirrored to Github with integration taken care of.
>
> Z. Issue Tracking
>
> Please help us setup a JIRA instance for both issue tracking and code
> review (TINKERPOP).
>
> AA. Initial Committers and Affiliations
> Marko A. Rodriguez (2009)
> Aurelius
> Stephen Mallette (2011)
> Nidomics
> James Thornton (2013)
> Electric Speed
>
> BB. Sponsors
>
>    - Champion: David Nalley
>    - Mentors: Rich Bowen, Matt Franklin, Daniel Gruno, David Nalley,
>    Hadrian Zbarcea
>    - Sponsoring Entity: We request the Incubator to sponsor this project.
>
>
>

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