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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment
Date Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:28:58 GMT
There are a few things that I would suggest for "next steps":

1) Draft a template resolution. Starting in the wiki is fine, but you'll
want to involve board@ when you have your first draft done. This will also
start the discussion among the Directors (recall: the Board hasn't even
agreed to try this!), and may produce some refinements.

2) Create a ComDev page discussing what it means to be a "provisional TLP".
The disclaimers/warnings/release-naming should likely mirror what we do for
incubating podlings.

3) Note that I use "provisional", since "probationary" implies you got in

I wouldn't really worry about time frames. This will be a very subjective
process, and every project is different. It will be hard to make a solid
determination on day X in the future. If I were to put my thumb in the air,
I'd say 6 and 12 months, rather than your 3/6.


On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:

> Hi!
> as I mentioned in a different thread, I feel really
> passionate about championing the pTLP experiment.
> To that end, here's what's going to happen shortly:
>   #1 a couple of new projects that feel equally enthusiastic
>        about trying a pTLP route (and have a level of support
>        from a few board members) will submit a pTLP proposal
>        to the board.
>   #2 based on how #1 goes we will try to establish a path
>        for existing (willing!) podlings to be converted to pTLP.
>        A solicitation and details of what to expect will be posted
>        on general@ with the expectations of having a couple
>        existing podlings as part of the experiment
> In about 3 months time frame, if #1 and #2 are moving in the
> right direction, I'd like to start offering pTLP *option* for new
> communities seeking to join ASF. By that time I hope to have
> some amount of documentation detailing the process and pros/cons
> compared to the existing IPMC led model.
> In about 6 months time frame I would like to have enough details
> in place to submit to IPMC and start a discussion on whether
> pTLP is a viable model that needs to be encouraged and what
> does it mean for IPMC and ASF Incubation process.
> For all practical purposes, consider me a self-appointed pTLP
> champion and please, please help along as much as you can!
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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