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From Alex Harui <>
Subject Re: P. An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
Date Wed, 24 Dec 2014 18:00:15 GMT

On 12/24/14, 2:43 AM, "Upayavira" <> wrote:

>But if someone sees mentorship as some kind of status, and you politely
>ask them to quit as a mentor through complete inactivity, the polite
>approach might not yield results given their attachment to the apparent
>In the end, in such scenarios, it'll take an impartial rule to resolve
>that sort of situation.

IMO, mentors can “go bad” not just for inactivity.  If you try to put in a
minimum activity rule, some mentor can just +1 everything or hastily reply
without fully understanding issues and waste people’s time.  At the
formation of a podling, the new PPMC members simply should be given
instructions on when and how to “tolerate” a bad mentor, and when and how
to seek action from the IPMC.

Flex started off with 4 mentors but one became inactive.  With 3 good
mentors, the 4th being inactive had no effect and could essentially be
ignored.  Should that have been reported somewhere?  Certainly it should
be in the quarterly reports if it is causing a problem (after polite
requests to engage the mentors fail).  It could be added to the graduation
proposal.  We simply did not credit the inactive mentor on the team page
on the website.


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