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From Ted Dunning <>
Subject Re: Incubator report sign-off
Date Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:24:45 GMT
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, John D. Ament <>

> > Absolutely not just noise. Take the extra 2 seconds to add your sign off.
> >
> I disagree.  Checking a check box is much different than adding meaningful
> comments, either on mailing lists or on the report itself.
> For example, which gives you better info that I feel confident in Tamaya's
> board report.
> My check here:
> or my comments in this thread:
> All the check does (from my point of view) is give someone a brief summary
> that things are looking good.  The check mark doesn't imply any due
> diligence on the mentor's part.  It's very misleading to see it that way.
> Take a look for example at the log4cxx2 podling's report.  It has mentor
> sign off, but the contents are barely present.  The only reason it has
> mentor sign off is because the mentor wrote the report, after I (as the
> shepherd) reminded the podling.


Are you seriously suggesting that the board should be delving into all the
incubator mailing lists to determine whether you are paying attention to
your mentoree groups?

The check-box is the concise way that you indicate that the activity on the
mailing lists is happening.  There is a known defect with checkboxes in
that they can be ticked without mentoring activity behind them, but that
doesn't mean that we should introduce a new failure mechanism where there
is good activity but no tick box.

Yes, the tick box is supposed to be an echo.  It is a redundant
summarization.  And it is very helpful because all the tick boxes are in
one place for easier review.

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