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From David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Re: [DISCUSS] New Incubator Project for Enterprise Configuration
Date Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:57:48 GMT
I'm happy to champion and endorse for inclusion in the Incubator as long as
the foremost focus is creating a functioning, lasting and healthy ASF
community and any JSR/JCP points always second.

I do not think these goals are mutually exclusive, in fact I think the
opposite; the world could benefit from JSRs based on and/or run by strong
Apache communities.

Provided it's the community leading the JSR and not the JSR leading the
community, I think we're a go for Incubation.


-David


On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Anatole Tresch <atsticks@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jean-Louis.
> I am sure there is enough work where you can help us ;)
>
>
> 2014-11-03 22:13 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeanouii@gmail.com>:
>
> > Thanks Anatole.
> > You were the one pushing the JSR so I wanted to be sure about the purpose
> > of this proposal.
> > Sound very interesting to me.
> >
> > Looking forward to help if needed.
> >
> > Jean-Louis
> >
> > 2014-11-03 18:18 GMT+01:00 Tresch, Anatole <
> > anatole.tresch@credit-suisse.com
> > >:
> >
> > > Hi Jean-Louis
> > >
> > > unfortunately I was a bit deferred in receiving this mail thread here.
> So
> > > sorry for the delay ;)
> > >
> > > > I do think it's an interested and important topic.
> > > >
> > > > Was wondering what's Anatole position as the Configuration JSR as
> been
> > > > deferred from Java EE 8.
> > > This JSR was targeting mainly EE 8 and mostly deployment aspects. I
> > think,
> > > with enough momentum,
> > > we could try to discuss of add some kind of SPIs to EE 8 through the
> > > umbrella JSR.
> > > On the other side, when we get a restful container management API, we
> > > could also
> > > use this to plugin with any kind of configuration solution. Of course,
> my
> > > hope is
> > > that we will be able to have a configuration solution in place that is
> > > mature and flexible
> > > enough to effectively support these EE scenarios.
> > > Application configuration basically is partially covered by Deltaspike
> as
> > > of now, but I think
> > > more features would be useful. As of now there is no good place to do a
> > > standardization
> > > for app config. I will try to revitalize the configuration stream in
> CDI,
> > > so we could at
> > > least end up in some kind of EE8 specification appendix. As of now this
> > > seems to be the
> > > maximum we can do on a standardization level. On the other side I
> think,
> > > Apache is a
> > > great chance to further evolve the concepts, so we will have a good
> > > chance, that we
> > > can standardize them at a later point.
> > >
> > > > Even if Mark and Gerhard are also part of DeltaSpike, that'd be great
> > to
> > > > avoid having many different configuration projects in Apache and then
> > > > splitting forces.
> > > > Probably also a good opportunity to move commons-configuration from
> > > > proper/dormant.
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Louis
> > >
> > > Fair enough. I am looking forward for any kind of collaboration here
> > >
> > > -Anatole
> > >
> > > Anatole Tresch
> > > Platform Strategy & Strategic Projects, KGVX 42
> > > +41 44 334 03 89 (*414 0389)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Louis
> >
>
>
>
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