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From Henry Saputra <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal
Date Wed, 16 Jul 2014 18:53:49 GMT
Definitely +1, active members, with lack diversity, are more useful.

My original comment was to suggest having mentors come from different
organizations so hopefully could help provide different perspectives
and inputs to the podling.
Never my intention to suggest false diversity to start an Apache
incubator project.

- Henry

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Ted Dunning <> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Chris Douglas <> wrote:
>> > So, I am fond of Henry's hope that the project will solicit a more
>> diversified
>> > set of mentors and initial committers.
>> The committer and PPMC list should be honest. If there is no
>> diversity, that fact must be visible for it to be tracked.
>> Initial committers are a dodge that demonstrates nothing about the
>> project's willingness to not only accept, but attract new ideas. The
>> viability of an OSS project is not inaccurately *defined* as its
>> ability to compete for that attention. Demanding pro forma adherence
>> to heuristics is a harmful lesson to podlings, unless the goal is to
>> teach them to evade accountability. -C
> +1 to this.
> Sham committers are more of a pain than lack of diversity, as much as I
> dislike sock-puppet projects.

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