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From Alexander Broekhuis <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Date Mon, 16 Jun 2014 07:56:47 GMT
2014-06-16 0:36 GMT+02:00 Joe Brockmeier <>:

> On 06/13/2014 05:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > Personally, I don't feel this is a big deal. The PMC size is appropriate
> > given the overall project size. That said, I'd like to make two points:
> >    * in general, for a smaller project like Celix I'd like to encourage
> folks
> >      to consider PMC == committers
> That is the case with Celix, correct? Looking at the status page, I only
> see "committers" and no PMC list.

Yes, for the TLP we decided to make all committers PMC members.

> I would note that the number of PMC members concerns me a bit since the
> most recent release process took more than a month b/c there weren't
> enough VOTEs. That is somewhat tempered by the fact that the project
> seems to have added two PMC/committers since 1.0.0.

During incubation PPMC members are not allowed to vote if they are not part
of the IPMC. So even if all committers where also on the PPMC, that
wouldn't have helped with the release. Wrt the release taking a long time,
as mentioned by Marvin, Roman is a mentor, but most of his time is consumed
by the Incubator itself. So we had to wait on the IPMC for a while (and as
can be seen by this thread, "a while" can turn out to be days or even

> Also of mild concern is that Celix missed its April report (it did
> report in May).

This was an unlucky combination of factors, vacations, schedules etc. As
you mentioned, we picked it up immediately in May.

What would be the best way to go now? Reading all graduation guidelines we
are ready, but if these guidelines are not correct, I'd like to see
statement about that. We are now left in the middle, without a clear guide
where to go..

Met vriendelijke groet,

Alexander Broekhuis

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