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From a_gucc...@me.com
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] fleece as an incubator project
Date Wed, 04 Jun 2014 02:36:40 GMT
That was a my mistake... Sorry 

> On 4 Òkúdu 26 Heisei, at 5:41 Àárọ̀, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3 June 2014 22:19, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hmm
>> 
>> think users@ can be used quickly. Is it really an issue?
> 
> Incubation should be used to build up the developer community.
> Adding a user list may lead to fragmentation.
> 
>> 
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-06-03 23:12 GMT+02:00 Jake Farrell <jfarrell@apache.org>:
>> 
>>> Hey Romain
>>> If you do not have a current users list externally in use for your project
>>> then I would recommend against requesting setup for a
>>> users@fleece.incubator.apache.org mailing list when you enter into the
>>> incubator and just keep all the project conversations on the
>>> dev@fleece.incubator.apache.org mailing list until a
>>> users@fleece.incubator.apache.org mailing list is needed.
>>> 
>>> -Jake
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Jake,
>>>> 
>>>> thanks, updated the doc. You mean migrating over dev@incubator?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2014-06-03 20:59 GMT+02:00 Jake Farrell <jfarrell@apache.org>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Please change mailing lists to
>>>>> 
>>>>>   - users@fleece.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>   - dev@fleece.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>   - commits@fleece.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>   - private@fleece.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> and do you currently have a very active user mailing list you are
>>>>> migrating? if not would recommend that you have all conversations on
the
>>>>> dev@ initially.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The git request should be changed to:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   - git.apache.org/incubator-fleece.git
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Jake
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To follow the incubator process and after the previous discuss thread
>>>>> here
>>>>>> is the formal proposal mail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Feel free to comment it!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apache Fleece Proposal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Abstract
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apache Fleece is an implementation of JSR-353 (JavaTM API for JSON
>>>>>> Processing).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Proposal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apache Fleece will consist of a number of modules. Mainly an
>>>>> implementation
>>>>>> of JSR-353 but also a set of usefule modules to help with the usage
of
>>>>>> JSR-353 (surely a mapping module and a jaxrs provider module).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Background
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JSon being more and more important JavaEE 7 specified an API to read
>>>>> and
>>>>>> create JSon objects/arrays.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apache Fleece builds on this specification a potential base to do
Json
>>>>> at
>>>>>> Apache (hopefully it will be integrated with CXF for instance).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rationale
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is not yet a Json related project at Apache but a lot of projects
>>>>>> rely on some specific implementions (jettison, jackson, others...).
>>>>>> Proposing a default would be great. The other point is a set of Apache
>>>>>> projects related to JavaEE (CXF, TomEE, Geronimo, Axis2...) will
need
>>>>> an
>>>>>> implementation. Having one built at Apache is a really nice to have.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial Goals
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The initial goal of the Apache Fleece project is to get a JSR-353
>>>>> compliant
>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Current Status
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial codebase was developped on github but designed to be
>>>>> integrated in
>>>>>> Apache.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Meritocracy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial community will be mainly composed of already Apache committers
>>>>> so
>>>>>> meritocracy is already something well known.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Community
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial community will be composed of TomEE community for sure,
>>>>> hopefully
>>>>>> CXF and potentially all JSon users of Apache.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial committers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   - Romain Manni-Bucau (individual, ASF)
>>>>>>   - Jean-Louis Monteiro (individual, ASF)
>>>>>>   - Mark Struberg (individual, ASF member)
>>>>>>   - Gerhard Petracek (individual, ASF member)
>>>>>>   - David Blevins (individual, ASF member)
>>>>>>   - Sagara Gunathunga (ASF)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alignment
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Several Apache project will need a JSR-353 implementation. Having
a
>>>>> project
>>>>>> which can be shared is better than having a sub project of a particular
>>>>>> project. Moreover this project makes sense "alone" since users can
>>>>>> integrate it without any other dependencies and use it to read/generate
>>>>>> Json in their project so it makes sense to create a dedicated project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Known Risks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Main risk is to get a not so active project since the specification
is
>>>>> not
>>>>>> that big.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Documentation
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is no documentation to import today but it will be created
using
>>>>>> standard ASF tools (ASF CMS mainly).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial Source
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial sources are on this git repository:
>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau/json-impl.git
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Source and IP Submission Plan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial sources are under Apache license v2.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Side note: it was really developed to be integrated in this project
>>>>>> (without waiting it to be created).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Required Resources
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mailing Lists
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   fleece-users@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>   -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   fleece-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>   -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   fleece-commits@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>   -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   fleece-private@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Version Control
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is proposed that the source code for the Apache Fleece project
be
>>>>> hosted
>>>>>> in the Apache Git repository, under the following directory:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   - incubator/fleece/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Issue Tracking
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The following JIRA project would be required to track issues for
the
>>>>> Apache
>>>>>> Fleece project:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   - FLEECE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Initial Committers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   - Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>>   - Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>>>>>   - Mark Struberg
>>>>>>   - Gerhard Petracek
>>>>>>   - David Blevins
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sponsors
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Champion
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   - Mark Struberg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nominated Mentors
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   - Justin Mclean
>>>>>>   - Christian Grobmeier
>>>>>>   - Daniel Kulp
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Project Name
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seems *Fleece* is the name which satisfies most of people but we
can
>>>>> still
>>>>>> ask for a new name if we feel it needed before being graduated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
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