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From Mark Struberg <>
Subject Re: Process question on release votes
Date Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:05:00 GMT
what has been with the rule that an ipmc must forward the VOTE to the incubator pmc when it
gets started, and those members can also cast a binding -1 ?


On Tuesday, 18 March 2014, 4:10, David Nalley <> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:10 PM, John D. Ament <> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> While not specifically incubator related, was wondering if someone at
>> the incubator may provide me some insight.
>> Right now, release votes cannot be veto'd.  This seems like an
>> oversight IMHO.  If a release candidate is visibly wrong (e.g. bad
>> licenses, or something else), surely the release candidate can be
>> veto'd no?
>This is correct - release votes are not veto-able.
>In my opinion if you have a PMC whose members choose to ignore an
>obviously problematic release, especially from a licensing standpoint,
>then you have much bigger problems with the project. In my experience
>two factors come into play:
>1. The release manager, even with a vote that technically passes, will
>not proceed with a vote where there are obvious major problems,
>especially from a legal perspective. They cancel the vote on their own
>accord. No one wants a majorly flawed release shipping.
>2. Other PMC members heap on -1 votes if it remains open for any
>length of time, effectively causing the vote to fail to pass.
>If you can't get agreement on the obviously wrong candidate, perhaps
>it's not as obvious why its wrong.
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