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From Matei Zaharia <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator
Date Thu, 06 Feb 2014 18:43:23 GMT
I like the idea of sending these to the dev list. I’m going to open an INFRA ticket for it.

While it seems that the current web hook only sends events when a pull request is opened or
closed, GitHub *can* email watchers for comments as well. I’m watching the project on GitHub
and I get an email for every comment, even on pull requests I never looked at. So maybe we
can investigate adding this to the GitHub hook — I’m sure it’s not a big burden from
their side.

The other option would be to somehow subscribe dev@ through the standard GitHub watcher framework
by making it the notification address for some account watching the repo, but this requires
confirming the address and I think anyone on dev might be able to unsubscribe it or take ownership
of that account if we do so. Maybe GitHub can help us do this without going through the “confirm
address” process. Did you guys have a contact over there helping with the mirroring, or
was it all done through their API? I imagine it’s in their interest to make GitHub work
with the ASF process because there are now multiple TLPs using it as their main reviewing


On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Jake Farrell <> wrote:

> Once the mirror is setup and synced to github (24hr window for this
> potentially to occur) then one of the Github Apache org admins can setup
> the webhook. The project just needs to put in an infra ticket asking for it
> -Jake
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Henry Saputra <>wrote:
>> HI Marvin,
>> The automatic email to dev@ list for github mirror PR, does it happen
>> for all ASF github mirrors or each podling need to do some setup to
>> make it work?
>> - Henry
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Marvin Humphrey <>
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Michael Joyce <> wrote:
>>>> How is doing a review on Github any different than doing a review on
>> Review
>>>> Board?
>>> One is captured to Apache controlled channels and the other is not.
>>>> If there's concern that work on Github isn't being adequately mirrored
>> on
>>>> the mailing lists then that sounds like an Infra problem to me.
>>> It's not an Infra problem.  It's the problem of any PMC which fails to
>> ensure
>>> that all of its communications are properly archived.
>>> If anyone here is interested in contributing towards this feature, I
>> encourage
>>> you to subscribe to the infrastructure-dev@apache list.  I also
>> encourage
>>> everyone to ponder carefully:
>>> *   How to ensure that no information is lost when capturing
>> communications
>>>    in GitHub channels through notifications to our dev lists.
>>> *   The impact of adding GitHub integration features on long-term ASF
>> Infra
>>>    labor costs.
>>>> There are plenty of hooks [1] that makes this easy to do and, if I'm not
>>>> mistaken, pull requests through Github are already supposed to mail dev@
>> .
>>> That's right.  I've actually worked on the specific hook that does
>> that[1][2].
>>>> I would assume that any comment on them should as well.
>>> Why would you "assume" that GitHub comments are being mailed to dev
>> lists?
>>> They are not.
>>> Every Apache PMC member is tasked with oversight of their project, and
>> that
>>> includes ensuring that all decisions happen on the dev list and are
>> properly
>>> documented.  It is not enough to "assume" that Infra is taking care of
>>> archival -- ensuring that the archival actually happens is the PMC's
>> direct
>>> responsibility.
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>> [1]
>>> [2] Thread on legal-discuss@apache:
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