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From Bertrand Delacretaz <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator (was Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator)
Date Fri, 07 Feb 2014 15:35:06 GMT
Hi Chris,

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Chris Mattmann <> wrote:
>... Bertrand, you originally VOTEd +1 until Craig mentioned his concerns
> about accounts not having been filed. Matei and others immediately
> stepped up (including myself), and explained the situation, and
> filed the accounts. Sebb's concerns were originally related to the
> resolution and mix of Apache ids/other mail Ids, etc....

Fact is, the mentors let the resolution go through with a very wrong
list of PMC members. Which I didn't spot either at first...trusting
the mentors too much maybe? ;-)

And the discussions in the vote thread show some worrying
uncertainties about the project's readyness to graduate. I have not
analyzed everything in detail so far, maybe everything's clear if one
rereads the full thread. But the perception is here.

> ...If you are suggesting in some thinly veiled way that the
> board is going to reject both the overwhelming majority of the
> direct paying attention mentors to the project; along with majority
> of other members of the IPMC; along with the members of the community who
> also
> recommended its graduation...

There was nothing behind my comment that the board can reject a
graduation resolution - suggesting things in some thinly veiled way is
not my style.

It's just that a board member who hasn't followed the project or the
details of this discussion, but knows that the vote thread here raised
lots of questions, might very well recommend to reject the resolution
until everything's clear.

So, my recommendation is that mentors identify and address the
concerns raised in the vote thread in a way that reassures us that the
project is indeed ready to graduate. Maybe just as some concise
comments in the vote thread once the updated the Spark resolution is


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