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From Alan Cabrera <>
Subject Re: Tool to generate disclaimer, NOTICE, etc. files
Date Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:42:40 GMT

On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Marvin Humphrey <> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Alan Cabrera <> wrote:
>> Do you think it would be helpful if we had a tool that generated these
>> files?  It could work like a command line wizard that prompts the person for
>> licensing information and then generates a valid disclaimer, notice, etc.
>> files.
>> If this is a good idea, what files should we generate?  Currently, all I can
>> think of is disclaimer and notice.
>> Maybe it could add the info into the project's DOAP file.  If we worked out
>> the kinks then we could create sbt/gradle/mvn plugins to read the DOAP file
>> and insert these files into the correct places in the distributions.  Apache
>> RAT could also use this info as well.
>> WDYT?
> I concur with sebb on the extreme challenges of auto-generating NOTICE --
> which is a shame because I'd really love it if the Incubator could benefit
> when you're inspired to write tooling.

Yeah, when we were sorting things out in a podling the idea hit me in the head.

> One thing I think we could use is a tool which parses mbox archives in
> and generates statistics:
> *   Total emails sent per list (a measure of activity)
> *   Unique addresses participating (a measure of diversity)
> *   Emails sent by Mentors (a measure of Mentor engagement)

Yeah, I’m working on that as we speak.  I have a project called Panopticon in Apache Labs.
 I’m currently working on mailing list moderator tools that allow moderation at the command
line.  Go check it out! 

> We expend a lot of volunteer energy on shepherding each month, and I think
> such an automated tool could help to free up some of that energy for other
> tasks.  There are two main functions for shepherding:
> 1.  Alert the IPMC to podlings which have gone adrift.
> 2.  Provide an outsider view.
> (I'd add a #3: being exposed to new communities benefits the shepherd, but
> that varies by individual.)
> I think that purpose #1 could largely be accomplished using email stats.
> I don't know if this is something you'd feel motivated to work on, but I
> thought it was worth mentioning because your original proposal would save time
> and energy and so would this.
> Marvin Humphrey
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