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From ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards
Date Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:58:02 GMT
Thanks for that Roy.

So, we _can_ let podlings have their own binding release votes and we
could do our own "pTLP" type experiments without even needing to go to
the board. We should try that. Not for every podling but just for
select ones where the circumstances mean it will work better than the
current approach. If there are no major objections to some experiments
with this approach then i'd like to start trying one.

   ...ant

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com> wrote:
> Release votes are expected to be a decision of the list of people
> empowered by the foundation to make that decision.  How that list
> of people is populated for podlings is up to the PMC.  Right now,
> the only list we have is the IPMC itself, as appointed by the board.
>
> If the Incubator wants to create separate subcommittees to mimic the
> operations of podling PMCs, with the subcommittee delegated the
> right to mint incubating releases and the subcommittee membership
> recorded in an appropriate place for Incubator committee records,
> that would meet my approval.
>
> The purpose of this requirement is to protect the folks who make
> release decisions (i.e., to provide a corporate record of their right
> to do an ASF release, since most of them have no other employment,
> contract, or officer role to back them up).
>
> ....Roy
>
> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:34 AM, Joseph Schaefer wrote:
>
>> Unlikely to get at least Roy’s approval because release
>> votes are expected to be a decision of the full committee,
>> not any one member of it.
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 1:04 AM, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How about simply changing the rules for Incubator releases so that
>>>> they don't require at least three binding votes, but instead make it
>>>> at least three votes only one of which must be binding. That would
>>>> mean there would still be the element of oversight that a mentor vote
>>>> gives but avoids all the problems with not having three mentors. I'm
>>>> sure the board would grant the Incubator authority to implement that
>>>> change.
>>>
>>> The board has charged us to vet the podlings and their releases.  What process
is used is up to us.
>>>
>>> I would prefer a variant of your proposal.  The first release needs three mentor/IPMC
votes.  Subsequent releases only require one mentor/IPMC vote.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
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