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From Till Westmann <>
Subject Re: Followup to VXQuery July 2013 report
Date Thu, 05 Sep 2013 03:00:05 GMT
Just for the record: The website is updated (from the branch that will hopefully be released


On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Marvin Humphrey <> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:42 PM, David Crossley <> wrote:
>> ant elder wrote:
>>> Hi Marvin, I had a look, that README being pointed to is just build
>>> instructions on how to build the svn trunk isn't it, so not to some
>>> released artifacts. Thats allowed isn't it, i'm pretty sure other projects
>>> and podlings have done something similar anyway. Is it that the website
>>> describes it as user installation instructions rather than developer build
>>> instructions thats the issue?
>>>   ...ant
>> I reckon so. To clearly refer developers to developer resources
>> is fine, but users no. They need to be referred to user instructions.
> In VXQuery's case, there's nothing to refer users to because in four years,
> VXQuery has never made an incubating release.
> If developer instructions for accessing version control are added to the
> website in accordance with ASF guidelines, of course that's fine -- so
> long as all "user installation" instructions are removed.
> Here's more background from the legal-discuss list regarding the current policy,
> this time from a different Board member, Doug Cutting:
>    Each PMC should attempt to ensure that every commit is in accord with
>    Apache's intellectual property policies. Releases are a double-check of
>    this. We hope that source code repositories are not legally considered
>    publications, but we don't know that courts will in fact always treat them
>    that way, so it's best to guard against that too. Note that the extra
>    scrutiny around releases both serves to double-check (belt and suspenders)
>    as well as to provide evidence that we do not consider the source code
>    repository as a publication. But again, we cannot depend on others to
>    agree with that, and must guard against other interpretations as best we
>    can.
> If VXQuery finds it uncomfortable not to have anything they can show users,
> they can solve that by making a release.
> Marvin Humphrey
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