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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:57:02 GMT

On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Alex Karasulu <> wrote:

> Put yourself in their shoes for a second? It's a big leap of faith for some
> projects to come and propose for incubation. You just scared the bejesus
> out of these guys even if they wanted to work with you.

You have also made it clear that the proposed podling will
be incredibly careful about who and when they give karma and
merit to, potentially scaring off a huge number of potential
committers, regardless of affiliation, who have likely
gotten the impression that the current committer list
consider themselves unimpeachable and a self-sustaining

I, for one, did not see any "piling on", certainly nothing
close to the levels that prompted that discussion from years
ago nor that prompted Roy's post, at the start of all this.
And FWIW, just because Roy expresses an opinion, it does not
make it Biblical; Not that I don't agree with most of what Roy's
comment indicates, but also starting off a podling with
a heavy-handed control also hamstrings the podling just
as badly.

It's called moderation. It's actually quite useful.

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