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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:33:47 GMT
+1, and thanks for finding a way to light a candle rather than curse the
darkness, Sanjiva.

Usergrid may have been on Github and under the ALv2 for the last couple years,
but as far as I know, it has not been under an open governance model until
now.  Releasing a project into open governance is not easy.  To attract
sustained contributions and investment from top talent, contributors need to
be given a true, meaningful governance stake.  The inevitable consequence is
that at least some of the time, the project will go in a different direction
the founder might have chosen.  There is no project founder that does not find
that uncomfortable and that does not experience some degree of regret when it

Should the Usergrid proposal be resubmitted, I hope that the Incubator
community will be tolerant as the project's existing community acclimates
itself to the new environment and deals with an issue which comes up
eventually for nearly all podlings.  Usergrid might receive somewhat elevated
scrutiny with regards to electing new committers and PMC members, but
"creating an open and diverse meritocratic community" is an exit criteria and
we should plan to help them succeed in that area as we would in any other.

Marvin Humphrey

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <> wrote:
> I think there's just a lot of misunderstanding and overreaction over
> nothing .. all based on presumed negative intent.
> Time to get past this and get the project going! I will not offer to mentor
> nor will WSO2 commit our folks to it at this point (yes Alex as CEO I will
> decide whether we commit work time to this) but that's fine - there's
> plenty of other mentors and this project can easily get a community going
> without our help.
> Sanjiva.

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