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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: Followup to VXQuery July 2013 report
Date Fri, 06 Sep 2013 23:43:52 GMT
Hi Ant,

I was the shepherd on VXQuery in their last reporting period. I really don't feel like anything
is really happening in the project, at least not anywhere that is visible. I even asked a
technical question about one of their suggested use cases - organize and accessing Edgar documents.
A source I have actually worked with. Company data is something I've been around all my life
and I am in my 50s. I grew up around company data since my father was a Finance Professor
at the University of Chicago and one of the founders of CRSP. My development career also involves
managing and analyzing company data.

Their answer was not clueful and very abstract. They have an idea for a query engine without
any idea how to get data into the engine. Anyone with a clue would choose to use Apache Solr,
Lucene, or something in the Hadoop cluster of projects over VXQuery.

However if you think that a viable community and project is happening give it a try.

But you should also look back to over a year ago when they got another chance. How many another
chances and mentor reboots should we give a project?


On Sep 5, 2013, at 7:58 AM, ant elder wrote:

> I don't see the need or point in being so draconian with the poddling
> especially given its history, so if you really do want to initiate
> retirement discussions if they've not released by their next report
> (which is just a few weeks away right?) I'll be voting against it and
> will volunteer to be a mentor to help try to keep them alive if they
> want to keep trying.
>   ...ant
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Marvin Humphrey <> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:01 AM, ant elder <> wrote:
>>> To me VXQuery looks like an example of a project being let down by the
>>> Incubator PMC.
>> Regardless, they will have to overcome their challenges themselves.
>>> Similarly with the no releases in 4 years - they've attempted to
>>> release twice and both times it stalled getting the votes, what they need
>>> are mentors who can show them whats necessary to push releases and voting
>>> through the Incubator.
>> VXQuery received guidance on pushing releases back in July[1].  It seems to
>> have had no effect[2].
>> The Incubator is not a hosting service.  If VXQuery wants to be part of
>> Apache, they must release.
>> Marvin Humphrey
>> [1]
>> [2]
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