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From Vinayak Borkar <>
Subject Re: Followup to VXQuery July 2013 report
Date Tue, 10 Sep 2013 07:25:17 GMT
Hi Dave,

I apologize if the answer you got to your question about VXQuery usage 
to be clueless and abstract. Since we did not see any feedback to the 
response to your question, the conclusion was that you were satisfied 
with the answer. The VXQuery team would have and still would appreciate 
any constructive ideas you might have that can help the project both 
from a technical as well as a process point of view.


On 9/6/13 4:43 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi Ant,
> I was the shepherd on VXQuery in their last reporting period. I really don't feel like
anything is really happening in the project, at least not anywhere that is visible. I even
asked a technical question about one of their suggested use cases - organize and accessing
Edgar documents. A source I have actually worked with. Company data is something I've been
around all my life and I am in my 50s. I grew up around company data since my father was a
Finance Professor at the University of Chicago and one of the founders of CRSP. My development
career also involves managing and analyzing company data.
> Their answer was not clueful and very abstract. They have an idea for a query engine
without any idea how to get data into the engine. Anyone with a clue would choose to use Apache
Solr, Lucene, or something in the Hadoop cluster of projects over VXQuery.
> However if you think that a viable community and project is happening give it a try.
> But you should also look back to over a year ago when they got another chance. How many
another chances and mentor reboots should we give a project?
> Regards,
> Dave
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 7:58 AM, ant elder wrote:
>> I don't see the need or point in being so draconian with the poddling
>> especially given its history, so if you really do want to initiate
>> retirement discussions if they've not released by their next report
>> (which is just a few weeks away right?) I'll be voting against it and
>> will volunteer to be a mentor to help try to keep them alive if they
>> want to keep trying.
>>    ...ant
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Marvin Humphrey <> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:01 AM, ant elder <> wrote:
>>>> To me VXQuery looks like an example of a project being let down by the
>>>> Incubator PMC.
>>> Regardless, they will have to overcome their challenges themselves.
>>>> Similarly with the no releases in 4 years - they've attempted to
>>>> release twice and both times it stalled getting the votes, what they need
>>>> are mentors who can show them whats necessary to push releases and voting
>>>> through the Incubator.
>>> VXQuery received guidance on pushing releases back in July[1].  It seems to
>>> have had no effect[2].
>>> The Incubator is not a hosting service.  If VXQuery wants to be part of
>>> Apache, they must release.
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>> [1]
>>> [2]
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