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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:39:04 GMT
On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Ed Anuff <> wrote:

> We definitely want participation, that's what this is all about, but I'm a little bit
surprised at the number of folks all from the same company affiliation who want to be committers
that have had heretofore no involvement or interest in the project for it's previous 2 years
of ASLv2 existence on GitHub.  Would really like to see some code contributions to at least
make sure there's an understanding of the architecture, but maybe that's not the way the process

It's not. The idea of coming to Apache is to build
a community around it. The fact that you were unable
to do so at Github, or that people had no involvement or
interest while there, is somewhat immaterial. What if
it had been a closed-source project? Would you wish to
prevent interested people from joining then as well?

The more successful podlings are those who tried to
start building community from the start, with the actual
proposal, and allowing people to express their interest
and desire to be part of that community from the get-go.

But it is no longer my direct concern since I decline to
be Champion for this proposal any longer. If things aren't
fun, I don't want to be bothered.

> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alex Karasulu <> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:40:19PM +0200, Lieven Govaerts wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:
> > > > Alex, if people want to join and add themselves as
> > > > committers, then they can. The bar to entry for podlings
> > > > during the initial proposal stage is "I'm interested" :)
> > >
> > > Is there some more background available on why the barrier is set this
> > > low in the incubator? It seems unnatural to me. A large part of
> > > incubation of course is to attract new committers, but why not let the
> > > podling decide on which barrier it wants to use?
> >
> > I said "initial proposal stage." After accepted and it actually becomes
> > a podling then, of course, the podling decides how high or low that
> > bar is.
> >
> > But we aren't talking about that.
> >
> So during the "initial proposal stage" anyone who volunteers goes in
> without having to contribute? There's no input from the perspective
> podliing?
> --
> Best Regards,
> -- Alex

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