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From Ed Anuff>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:42:48 GMT
Jim, thanks for your efforts on this.  Appreciate all your help so far.


> On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:
>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Ed Anuff <> wrote:
>> We definitely want participation, that's what this is all about, but I'm a little
bit surprised at the number of folks all from the same company affiliation who want to be
committers that have had heretofore no involvement or interest in the project for it's previous
2 years of ASLv2 existence on GitHub.  Would really like to see some code contributions to
at least make sure there's an understanding of the architecture, but maybe that's not the
way the process works.
> It's not. The idea of coming to Apache is to build
> a community around it. The fact that you were unable
> to do so at Github, or that people had no involvement or
> interest while there, is somewhat immaterial. What if
> it had been a closed-source project? Would you wish to
> prevent interested people from joining then as well?
> The more successful podlings are those who tried to
> start building community from the start, with the actual
> proposal, and allowing people to express their interest
> and desire to be part of that community from the get-go.
> But it is no longer my direct concern since I decline to
> be Champion for this proposal any longer. If things aren't
> fun, I don't want to be bothered.
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alex Karasulu <> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:40:19PM +0200, Lieven Govaerts wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Jim Jagielski <>
>>>>> Alex, if people want to join and add themselves as
>>>>> committers, then they can. The bar to entry for podlings
>>>>> during the initial proposal stage is "I'm interested" :)
>>>> Is there some more background available on why the barrier is set this
>>>> low in the incubator? It seems unnatural to me. A large part of
>>>> incubation of course is to attract new committers, but why not let the
>>>> podling decide on which barrier it wants to use?
>>> I said "initial proposal stage." After accepted and it actually becomes
>>> a podling then, of course, the podling decides how high or low that
>>> bar is.
>>> But we aren't talking about that.
>> So during the "initial proposal stage" anyone who volunteers goes in
>> without having to contribute? There's no input from the perspective
>> podliing?
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> -- Alex

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