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From Chris Riccomini <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Samza Proposal
Date Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:44:00 GMT
Hey Marvin,

I think we pretty much agree with everything you've said. :)

We're definitely sensitive to the discuss-in-person issue. We'll pay
attention to it, and try to move conversation to the list when we see it
happening. The same holds true for the risk assessment comment. We're
sensitive to it. We'll try our best.

I talked with Jakob, and we'll hold off on the -user mailing list initially.

Thanks for the feedback!


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Marvin Humphrey <>wrote:

> Hi,
>     The current core developers are all from LinkedIn. However, we hope to
>     establish a developer community that includes contributors from several
>     corporations and we actively encouraging new contributors via the
> mailing
>     lists and public presentations of Samza.
> Collective experience in the Incubator suggests that keeping discussions
> on-list will be an important challenge for the prospective Samza podling.
> It's much more efficient to just discuss things in person when everyone
> works
> in the same office -- especially difficult architectural issues requiring a
> high-level perspective on the complete project.  However, given the history
> both the individual contributors and LinkedIn itself, at least the podling
> ought to start off with a strong understanding of the challenge.
>     The core developers plan to work full time on the project. There is
> very
>     little risk of Samza being abandoned as it is part of LinkedIn's
> internal
>     infrastructure.
> This risk assessment seems a tad optimistic to me ;) since I only trust
> commercial entities to do what's in the interest of the bottom line and
> that
> can change very rapidly.  (Witness IBM pulling all of its developers off of
> Harmony.)  But I certainly don't see any problem that ought to block entry
> into the Incubator.
>     * samza-private for private PMC discussions (with moderated
> subscriptions)
>     * samza-dev
>     * samza-commits
>     * samza-user
> I'd suggest foregoing the user list for now.  (See
> <>.)  You want highly
> engaged users who are likely to become developers.  It's best to keep
> everyone
> on the same list until dev traffic levels become burdensome to users; you
> don't have that problem yet.
>     Nominated Mentors
>     * Arun C Murthy <acmurthy at apache dot org>
>     * Chris Douglas <cdouglas at apache dot org>
>     * Roman Shaposhnik <rvs at apache dot org>
> The core developers may all work for LinkedIn, but that's a good, diverse
> list
> of Mentors in terms of affiliation.  (Hortonworks, Microsoft, and Cloudera,
> repectively.)
> Marvin Humphrey
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