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From Sanjiva Weerawarana <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project
Date Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:23:46 GMT
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Noah Slater <> wrote:

> Ross, thanks for bringing this up! I'm happy to be a part of this
> experiment.


> While owning the "Stratos" trademark would certainly put us in a position
> of being able to ask WSO2 to stop using StratosLive. But there's no
> guarantee that we would be successful. Case in point: Apache CouchDB and

As long as I'm running WSO2 that would be successful. However my job is not
tenured :-).

I learnt two lessons from the Couchbase fiasco:

Thanks for your well-reasoned explanation. We will go ahead and change
StratosLive as well .. it will take a bit of time but we will do it. (BTW
the current StratosLive is not Stratos 2.0 (what we're donating) based.)

> Hmm that idea was based on how Cloudera is distributing Hadoop:
> >
> >
> >
> > Is that also incorrect then? IIRC they've been doing that for years and
> > presumably ASF is aware of it?
> >
> The ASF is aware of it, but I don't think we're happy with it. Shane will
> have more thoughts on this.

I understand that but, using your own metric (would there be consumer
confusion between Apache Stratos and WSO2 XXX), I would argue that there
will be no consumer confusion as to whether what they're downloading is an
Apache product or a WSO2 one.

Anyway, we are not going to play games with ASF brands; that's not the way
WSO2 does stuff. Lets see what Shane says as well.

Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;
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