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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman
Date Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:03:49 GMT
On 19 June 2013 17:41, Alan Cabrera <> wrote:
> I will also point out that it seems to me that those who are opposed or, at best, lukewarm
to the idea are well established and well > connected individuals in the ASF sphere.

Useful observation. It is so easy for us to think what we learned
years ago is easy.


> Regards,
> Alan
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Alexei Fedotov <> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Why one would need an additional alias? Existing questions are sent to
>> general@ or dev@community or (please add here), and one in the superhero
>> role should timely answer them or facilitate an answer. [Complex question]
>> tag in the subject line should be sufficient, or just no answer to some
>> mail for 72 hours.
>> If titles are important, we can simply assign nice titles to guys who
>> answer to 10 of these complex issues.
>> Maybe some discussion on facilitation means can be useful to avoid calling
>> the guy impolite.
>> I have one particular problem to deal with. New projects which come outside
>> of Apache, cannot find Apache champion. The request is too wide to reach
>> someones ear. One possibe way to address it is to assign an eco-champion to
>> the new project who performs the project evaluation. The champion comes
>> from the Apache project of the same area. Sometimes we may end up with
>> community merges by going this way.
>> 19.06.2013 3:03 пользователь "Ross Gardler" <>
>> написал:
>>> On 18 June 2013 23:53, Joe Schaefer <> wrote:
>>>> Why so much reluctance to just honor the request such as it is
>>>> instead of looking for different ways of modifying it to taste?
>>> ISSUE 03 at work I think - perhaps it is my fault for thinking aloud
>>> about how the role might also help solve a different problem from the
>>> one it was originally designed to solve. Maybe I set the wrong tone
>>> for discussion. Lets forget that.
>>> Please just go ahead and do it the way you are suggesting. There is no
>>> harm. The worst that can happen is someone sends an email to the alias
>>> and there is no response. The next worst is that nobody ever uses it.
>>> In either case we will eventually reverse this step.
>>> And please also go ahead with your "bill of rights" - I'll comment in
>>> that thread in a moment.
>>> Ross
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