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From Joseph Schaefer <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman
Date Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:52:18 GMT
This is a suggestion that has come up in the past, and the typical counter-argument is that
this is something the chair needs to provide themselves.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Ross Gardler <> wrote:

> Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity
> On 15 Jun 2013 16:53, "Alan Cabrera" <> wrote:
>> Problem: podlings are confused on where to go when there's a problem.
>> Cause: we seem to collect/handle/organize problems in an ad hoc manner
> and sometimes mentors are the problem.
>> Solution: we create an elected Incubator Ombudsman.
> From now on I'm only going to look at solutions in the context of the
> issues on the wiki page. If a proposal doesn't apply to one or more issues
> I'm not interested.
> In this case...
> The only problem that would need an ombudsmen is ISSUE 01 (inactive
> mentors). Mentors should always know where to go to solve a problem (we
> have specialist committees for pretty much every issue that will arise). If
> mentors are inactive then ISSUE 01 is in play.
> The current place to go is the IPMC. At this point ISSUE 03 may well come
> into play.
> The idea of an Ombudsman overlaps with my earlier proposal for a
> psuedo-board in the IPMC. Its also similar to both suggested solutions for
> ISSUE 03 in the wiki.
> For these reasons I suggest the Ombudsmen proposal has merit.
> I also suggest that this ombudsmen could be the organisation responsible
> for acting if a podling (or a pTLP, if the experiment shows merit in this
> model) is failing.
> As always the details needs to be ironed out but since the proposal
> directly addresses ISSUE 03 I would like to see it explored. I especially
> like that it complements my pTLP experiment which is designed to address
> ISSUE 01 (but clearly your proposal is worth exploring even without that
> potential advantage).
> Ross
>> Regards,
>> Alan
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