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From ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What's the difference between dormant and retired?
Date Wed, 29 May 2013 19:36:12 GMT
I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term
"retired" is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various places
in the Incubator documentation so wouldn't it be better to keep it as is?
Are there really any dormant poddlings? If so probably they are really
retired now and they should just be changed to that.

   ...ant

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com> wrote:

> If no one minds I will change them all to dormant, since all are welcome
> back to the fold, should they so desire.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On May 27, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator perspective.
> >>
> >> Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but
> >> believe later on we can build it back up.
> >> Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think
> it's
> >> best to archive the code/move it to github/move it to bitbucket and
> allow
> >> others who want to work on it to just grab it and go.
> >
> > The difference is one goes to github and one does not?
> >
> > After this interpretation I would expect dormant projects to retire.
> > Retired projects
> > can be revived too. It does not matter if there was something on GitHub
> or not.
> >
> > Not enough for me to maintain two terms.
> >
> >>
> >> Just my 2 cents..
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Christian Grobmeier <
> grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Yeah, I like the word dormant as well.  Should we rename them all to
> >>> dormant?
> >>>
> >>> +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Alan
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final.
> Using
> >>>>> the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more feasible
> for
> >>>>> the podlings to go, well, dormant.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Upayavira
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> >>>>>> They kinda sound the same.  Why didn't podlings want to retire?
>  Does
> >>>>>> anyone know?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Alan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier <
> grobmeier@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response
from
> Henri
> >>>>>>> Yandell which I repost here:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to be retired.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Basically this is a larger version of "don't be afraid to
delete a
> >>>>>>> line of code; it's in version control".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hen"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alan Cabrera <adc@toolazydogs.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear to me
what the
> >>> difference is.  I'm sure I neglected to read some documentation bit.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Alan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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