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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: How to make votes more visible?
Date Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:01:59 GMT

I recommend that you start by politely asking your mentors.

If you, or one of these other projects, don't have enough active
mentors to pass a release vote, I recommend that you recruit more
mentors. One possibility is that one the participants could join the
IPMC; we have voted in people who have demonstrated enough grasp of
the requirements.

I am a pessimist about getting releases reviewed 'in the cloud' of
miscellaneous members of this PMC.


On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Gary Martin <> wrote:
> On 18/01/13 11:30, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
>> <> wrote:
>>> Hi Christian,
>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> ...Can we somehow find a way to highlight currently running votes?...
>>> Isn't the [VOTE] tag in subject sufficient?
>>> You could filter those threads to a different mail folder to make sure
>>> you don't miss them.
>> In theory yes. But on the other hand i already have tons of gmail
>> labels (counting asf lists only).
>> There are some [VOTE]s open for a pretty long time. Basically this is
>> the problem i wanted to address.
> I suspect that [VOTE]s remaining open frustrates a number of incubator
> projects. There currently seem to be 5 ongoing votes at this point which are
> (I think I have these ordered by last response time):
>    [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release - open 13 days
>    [VOTE] Release Apache Onami-Test 1.4.0-incubating - open 3 hours
>    [VOTE] Release Apache Onami-Logging 3.4.0-incubating - open 3 hours
>    [VOTE] - Apache Clerezza Graduation Resolution - open 5 days
>    [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating) - open 5 days
> Sorry if I missed any. Two of the above have just started but of the others,
> two took (or are still taking) a fairly long time to get started.
> Regarding the original suggestion, a web based tool would only seem to be
> useful if the problem is associated with IPMC members not noticing rather
> than not feeling that they have time to do proper reviews. Has this been
> determined yet? Are there any other possible reasons?
> Finally, a shameless request: please can we get more people reviewing the
> Bloodhound vote?
> Cheers,
>     Gary

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