From general-return-38775-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Sat Dec 1 15:01:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01727DA87 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 15:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43775 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2012 15:01:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43629 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2012 15:01:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 43616 invoked by uid 99); 1 Dec 2012 15:01:42 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 15:01:42 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.111.4.28] (HELO out4-smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.28) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 15:01:35 +0000 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F120E37; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 10:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 01 Dec 2012 10:01:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= daniel.shahaf.name; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=Xd5NyFK0x+rDQsEOHEbvaeCQvmo=; b=W/j5y 96Q3ZZ3iZ+oDmFFpamtU9lG3samjVwlRihI2mUn8IjgS1/aEA4Qxsyf/CdF6Gv5y m2jjL3f9pwwuct17GBC0HvKLg/NX8TOR2mR7QWaIZZUWJbs9IpjPW2+WcRL7fiZE s6qQMdA4Iv7hWfB73mGs3NCmT6p0+ll4BCtt04= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=Xd5NyFK0x+rDQsEOHEbvaeCQvmo=; b=OYli +eiLcNTb8ATCeLSLl9weqp0ShHKjwL1/OTzADs3moB1TMdyXC4X0QQdLipb1ndJx SQH8PMEoMvAFF3nt+BWsQ6TyXb9gK+2MqREkBi3VLUBmgNAFs1rWhuNyx0cVK/Da IJhweIBTHBsVWeXvB0B048lwPAn2vobkWIdXP/8= X-Sasl-enc: 0anck8bL9trPN6xmj8jlIn0gU8QUMRxHXTwXZuBA80nm 1354374074 Received: from lp-shahaf.local (unknown [79.176.218.190]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DE6BD8E0571; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 10:01:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 17:00:50 +0200 From: Daniel Shahaf To: Ross Gardler Cc: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Invoke silent consensus rule for podling releases Message-ID: <20121201150050.GD6039@lp-shahaf.local> References: <50B990E6.8010801@apache.org> <50BA194E.1030506@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Make every vote a bugzilla issue, and use the existing script that mails an issue summary once a week? Ross Gardler wrote on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 14:55:05 +0000: > That tool would be useful in more places than the incubator. Great idea. > I'm looking forward to seeing it ;-) > > Sent from my tablet > On Dec 1, 2012 2:51 PM, "Branko Čibej" wrote: > > > On 01.12.2012 15:06, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: > > >> It's quite frustrating that people find time to write hundreds of mails > > >> about points of procedure, but can't take time to review a release > > >> tarball from a podling. > > > Reviewing a release when you are not directly involved as a developer is > > > **really hard**. > > > > > > As an IPMC member yourself, have you ever reviewed a release for podling > > you > > > were not involved with? > > > > Yes. In fact, I spent time reviewing AOO incubator releases. Don't > > recall if I actually voted on one; probably not, since there were so > > many other active IPMC members all over that. > > > > > I hereby propose we extend the silent consensus rule to podling > > > release votes. > > > -1 > > > > > > That's at odds with basic, ASF-wide rules for voting on releases. > > > > I know; but it got everyone's attention, didn't it. :) > > > > What I'd more seriously like to propose is that we come up with a tool > > that slurps the general@ archives and pings the list once a week with a > > reminder about outstanding votes. I'll happily invest my copious free > > time towards that, if the IPMC agrees such a tool would be useful. > > > > -- Brane > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org