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From Alan Cabrera <>
Subject Re: What constitute a successful project?
Date Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:53:22 GMT

On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:

> Hi,
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Alan Cabrera <> wrote:
>> Even by the PPMC's comments they obliquely acknowledge that there's not much
>> activity and expressed an interested in simply keeping it around with the hopes
>> that something would happen; there were no concrete ideas or plans on how to
>> grow the community because, by their own admission, no one has the time to
>> work much on the project.
> That lack of concrete plans is a good place to start. Anyone from the
> community who opposes retirement should take it up on themselves to
> provide such a concrete plan for example in time for next month's
> report. Just like the caster of a technical veto should come up with
> an alternative implementation. :-)

As I mentioned in an earlier email, we did have this conversation seven months ago.  We came
to a consensus to give it another try.  We even added a few committers a "bit early" with
the hopes that they would infuse the project with more energy.

The vote came after many discussions over the year.  The Chukwa podling, which was started
back in 2010, was given its second chance.  Unless there's something glaring that was overlooked,
I'm not prepared to change my mind about its retirement.


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