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From Jukka Zitting <>
Subject Clerezza status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "August2012" by BertrandDelacretaz)
Date Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:16:23 GMT

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Apache Wiki <> wrote:
> +   As in our last report in May, we believe Clerezza should graduate soon, but
> +   unfortunately that hasn't happened yet. Activity is currently fairly low,
> +   and it looks like Clerezza might remain a small/low activity project, but
> +   the PPMC is functional, has done releases and invited additional committers
> +   so there's no need to stay in the Incubator any longer once a plan to attempt
> +   to grow the community is in place.

Do you have an idea what happened around a year ago when dev@ activity
dropped from the hundreds it was for a long time to the dozens where
it's mostly stayed since then? Alarmingly the low mark seems to have
been last month when only a single non-automated post was sent to

I recall Clerezza having release trouble due to complex/unreleased
dependencies for a long time. Could that have contributed to the loss
of momentum? I think it would be useful to somehow capture experience
like this, perhaps ultimately for use by ComDev in something like a
"How to maintain community momentum?" guide.

Anyway, it sounds like the community has a reasonably good idea on how
to proceed, so I'm not too worried yet even though Clerezza is already
getting pretty close to its three-year mark at the Incubator. Though
I'd really love to see Clerezza showing notable improvement or even
graduating before that milestone is reached.

If the efforts to grow or reactivate the community fail, would it be a
good idea to seek to join forces with some related projects like
Stanbol, Any23 or UIMA? Or do you feel that there are still enough
active people to allow the project to function as a standalone TLP
(able to reach 3 PMC votes for releases, etc.)?


Jukka Zitting

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