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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote
Date Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:32:06 GMT
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
> Per the IPMC's "Guide to Successful Graduation" [1] this is the
> optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our
> willingness/readiness to govern ourselves.  If this vote passes then
> we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement,
> and then to the ASF Board for final approval.   Details can be found
> in the "Guide to Successful Graduation".
> Everyone in the community is encouraged to vote.  Votes from PPMC
> members and Mentors are binding.  This vote will run 72-hours.
> [ ] +1  Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the
> Apache Incubator.
> [ ] +0 Don't care.
> [ ] -1  Apache OpenOffice community is not ready to graduate from the
> Apache Incubator because...

In my opinion, the issue of binary releases ought to be resolved before

If the podling believes that ASF-endorsed binaries are a hard requirement,
then it seems to me that the ASF is not yet ready for AOO and will not be
until suitable infrastructure and legal institutions to support binary
releases (sterile build machines, artifact signing, etc) have been created
and a policy has been endorsed by the Board.

One possibility discussed in the past was to have downstream commercial
vendors release binaries a la Subversion's example, which would
obviate the need for all the effort and risk associated with providing support
for ASF-endorsed binaries.  For whatever reason, the AOO podling seems not to
have gone this direction, though.

Marvin Humphrey

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