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From Jukka Zitting <>
Subject Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)
Date Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:10:28 GMT

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Ralph Goers <> wrote:
> I posted an email earlier today where I discussed my confusion over the diversity
> requirement.  I'm not comfortable doing anything without getting some feedback
> on whether the diversity requirement, as currently stated on the wiki, is correct or
> whether diversity should simply be measured by how a project makes its
> decisions as Roy suggests.

All the graduation criteria are things that the IPMC has previously
considered important things to consider when deciding if a "community
has reached maturity" as defined in the original Incubator resolution
[1]. The criteria have evolved over time and will continue to do so.

That said, I think diversity is an important factor of community
maturity and should definitely be considered when casting a vote on
the graduation of a project. The traditional metric of at least three
independent (active) committers is a good guideline, though it has
often especially with smaller projects been judged subjectively and
weighed in relation to other aspects of community health.

As for Flume, you and the other mentors are in the best position to
consider the overall maturity of the project. Is the project ready to
function as a standalone TLP on it's own according to the Apache Way
and the ASF policies, or is there still something that the Incubator
can or should teach the community?

Personally, based on a few closer looks at Flume, it seems to me that
the community passes that barrier and I'm satisfied with the way
they've decided to addressed the concerns that were raised. But before
casting my vote I'd love to hear your opinion on this since you raised
the issue originally and as a mentor you have much better insight on
the actual community dynamics within Flume.



Jukka Zitting

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