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From "Alan D. Cabrera" <>
Subject Re: Shepherds for podling reports
Date Sat, 05 May 2012 22:05:23 GMT
Thanks for replying with a thoughtful response.

Jukka put forth the idea of shepherds as a proposal.  I was merely replying to that proposal
with my own considered ideas.

I am encouraged about the enthusiasm but I feel that it blurs the responsibility of the mentor.
 Shepherding the shepherds of a podling, i.e. mentors, seems to me like the wrong way to go.
 It does add process.  If one carefully re-reads posts to this thread there's all sorts of
extra complexity being considered such as groupings of podlings and clearly defining the rules
for cross-cutting projects, etc.  Not that this is what's going to finally be adopted.

Incubation is confusing enough as it is.

Sprinkling more process, roles, and bureaucracy is not the solution to, my mind, mentors who
need to be politely pinged.  This is just my humble opinion. 

With that said, the shepherds have my sincere best wishes and I am happy to cooperate for
those podlings where I am mentor.

Thanks again for your kind reply.


On May 5, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> Hi Alan
>  For sure your point may be valid, but the whole point, if you read the
> whole thread from the beginning, which I am sure you did, you will notice
> that Jukka mentioned that this is a start and will assess the effort and
> the whole plan after giving it sometime.
> And actually having other people looking into reports, from one side that
> will help mentors and from the other side it is as mentioned by Alex a
> fresh eye, who can poke around and ask questions or even provide more help.
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <>wrote:
>> On May 5, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>> If you don't want to be a Shepherd, don't sign up.
>> Yeah, I get that part.
>>> The board asked us
>>> to do a better job of reviewing reports and detecting mentor
>>> deficiencies.
>> I get that too.
>>> This is a plan to accomplish that.
>> My opinion about the plan stands.
>> Regards,
>> Alan
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