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From Ralph Goers <>
Subject Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)
Date Sun, 27 May 2012 00:15:43 GMT

On May 26, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:

> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Ralph Goers <>wrote:
>> At this point my recommendations are:
>> 1. Since the PPMC voted to separate being a committer and being a PMC
>> member I would wait a couple of months and then add the new non-Cloudera
>> committers to the PPMC if it is warranted.
>> 2. Of course, add any new committers who have earned it.
>> 3. Send an email to the entire PPMC asking them to confirm that they want
>> to remain on the PMC after graduation.
>> 4. Based on that we will know what the making of the post-graduation PMC
>> will look like.
>> 5. Raise the topic of graduation as a discussion item either on the PMC or
>> dev list after the above 4 are completed.
> What purpose will these recommendations serve?
> * We have established that there is sufficient diversity in the committers
> list.
> * Without counting you, there are two other non-Cloudera PPMC who have
> expressed their commitment to the project.
> * The VOTE thread has overwhelmingly established what the community wants.
> * We, the "active" PPMC have demonstrated self-governance using accepted
> Apache practices and are committed to growing and diversifying the project
> further.
> If at this stage you insist on postponing the graduation, I am inclined to
> think that perhaps your own preferences outweigh that of the project and
> community. Please don't get me wrong - I am not accusing you of anything,
> just requesting you to please consider revoking your -1 vote.

Arvind - my "preferences" are my following through as a mentor for Flume and insuring the
project's success.  That is my duty as a member of the ASF and the obligation I took on as
a member of the IPMC.  One measure of that would be to consider what would happen if all the
Cloudera people were to suddenly vanish from the project (this could easily happen if Cloudera
were purchased by a larger company who had different goals).  As it stands today I don't believe
the project would survive very long.


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