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From Bruno Mahé <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] BOM and supported platforms for Bigtop 0.4.0
Date Tue, 08 May 2012 01:29:18 GMT
On 05/08/2012 05:50 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote:
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Owen O'Malley <> wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:
>>>>> I don't understand the BigTop use cases
>>>> Perhaps this preso can help a bit:
>>> Notes from this presentation:
>>> * 100% Apache Bigdata management distribution
>>> * Bigtop is a distribution for users
>> Owen, I'd appreciate if you refrained from quoting out of context.
>> Please take a look at slide #11 for a complete list of things
>> that Bigtop is trying to accomplish. Saying that it is *just*
>> "a distribution for users" is like saying that Debian GNU Linux
>> is just about the Linux kernel.
> I never said "just" a distribution for users, but your presentation
> makes it very clear it is first and foremost a distribution for users.
> Since we now agree about that, how about getting back to whether an
> Apache distro project should be distributing non-Apache software.
> -- Owen
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Again, we don't distribute non-Apache software, as well as we don't
distribute other Apache software either.
Since you keep on doing this mistake, there is surely a
misunderstanding. So it would probably be easier if you could point us
to other Apache (or non-Apache) software being distributed as part as
any Apache Bigtop (incubating) releases on which members have voted on?

And again, Apache releases are what people vote on. not the convenience
artefacts which are there for convenience and are not voted on. So I
still don't see any reason to not withdraw your -1 since your only issue
seems to be related to the dependencies in the convenience artefacts
(which is standard practice, even within Apache Hadoop)

I would really appreciate if you could stop conflating Apache releases
with convenience artefacts. The discussion would be able to go much
further and not just spam general@ members.

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