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From Karl Wright <>
Subject Re: Question about downloading binaries
Date Thu, 05 Apr 2012 15:32:23 GMT
For all those with interest in the "brave newer world" of Apache
releases --- there is a build artifact (RC4 in fact) now also
available for inspection.  I'd love to get feedback on the
multi-artifact licenses, readme's, and release organization before we
go through the process of putting it up for a formal vote in the
incubator list.  If you see any further legal/policy problems, please
tell me now. ;-)

You can download the artifacts from


On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Karl Wright <> wrote:
> Ok, you can now browse each different build artifact's license,
> notice, and readme file at:
> - source
> - lib artifact
> - binary artifact
> Please let me know what you think now.
> Karl
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
> <> wrote:
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Karl Wright []
>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:24 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Question about downloading binaries
>>>"Also, making sure the other comments on NOTICEs are addressed as well."
>>>I have gotten extremely confusing advice in this area in the past, and
>>>the available documentation does not help.  I believe I am adhering to
>>>Roy's principles, but before we spin another release candidate, I'd
>>>like it very much if someone with a (hopefully accurate) idea of how
>>>things are supposed to work reviewed our license and notice files.
>>>You can find them here:
>> Just looking quickly, the LICENSE file contains a lot of licenses for the jars you
were distributing.  For the source release, the ONLY L&N attributions needed are the
ones for code that you are including in your source.
>> If, like many projects, you have no 3rd party source inclusion, the LICENSE file
should only contain ASL 2.0 and the NOTICE should have the standard developed at apache note.
>> For the binary releases, we have been adding entries for any jars we include, as
you have done.  There are a couple of tweaks I would suggest, I propose that you get an agreeable
source L&N first as I think there is (yet again) a wider discussion to be had regarding
convenience binaries...
>>>On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Matt Hogstrom <> wrote:
>>>>> Hope that helps...  The question is, will Roy (or anyone else) be
>>>>> unwilling to vote for the first option?
>>>> Having been one of the people that commented and started the thread, I
>>>feel like I was wearing loose clothing while operating machinery, per Roy's
>>>guidance on the source being the thing that is voted on and the other binaries
>>>are merely convenience items, I would support the first option.  Also, making
>>>sure the other comments on NOTICEs are addressed as well.
>>>> Unfortunate that you god dog piled on but hopefully we're all better
>>>prepared going forward.
>>>> Matt Hogstrom
>>>> A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
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