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From Karl Wright <>
Subject Re: Question about downloading binaries
Date Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:45:03 GMT
I think the bigger picture here is that resolving differences of this
kind requires time, and during the interim we need to be able to
release software anyway.  I have no wish to maintain a forked copy of
either xerces or httpclient indefinitely, but right at the moment we
are not prepared or able to use the released versions of these
libraries.  I hope that we can all agree that pragmatism has a value;
we're certainly not trying to step on people's toes, we're simply
trying to solve a problem.


On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Karl Wright <> wrote:
> "what's the use-case for non-well-formed
> XML?' This thread is probably not the best place to delve further in
> that direction."
> Simple use case: parsing malformed RSS feeds.  I agree, though, we're
> getting into the weeds here; I'd love to have this discussion
> elsewhere, but the point does stand that none of these patch decisions
> was done lightly.  Hopefully the community can accept that.
> Karl
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Benson Margulies <> wrote:
>> Karl,
>> I'm exceedingly sorry here that the IPMC as a whole let you down by
>> not turning into these issues and dealing with them at the outset.
>> There's been a lot of sensitivity expressed lately to Apache projects
>> stepping on each other's toes.
>> Personally, I have no objection to including mutant jars in a -deps
>> binary with a clear explanation of what they are, but I would like to
>> see some support for that view, because I'd could imagine some
>> objections based on recent email.
>> In the longer term, if ManifoldCF really wants to include an "XML
>> parser with a difference", then it's certainly possible for you to
>> maintain and release a fork of Xerces under your own package names. I
>> agree with Sebb that you would be well advised to find some other way
>> around it. My personal reaction, in complete isolation from the
>> problem at hand, was 'really? what's the use-case for non-well-formed
>> XML?' This thread is probably not the best place to delve further in
>> that direction.
>> --benson

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