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From Michael McCandless <>
Subject Re: Simplifying podling infra
Date Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:13:29 GMT

Mike McCandless

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Jukka Zitting <> wrote:
> Hi,
> Currently new podlings have most of their infrastructure (lists, web
> site, svn, etc.) set up under and
> repos/asf/incubator. As a consequence they need to perform an extra
> infrastructure migration when they graduate. IMHO that's one infra
> migration too much.
> Would it make sense for us to allow podlings to be set up at their
> expected TLP locations right from the beginning? The IPMC would still
> be ultimately responsible for overseeing all these locations and we'd
> still expect the standard incubator disclaimers to be in place (we
> might even ask for extra ones in list footers, etc. if needed). If a
> podling ends up being retired or graduating into a subproject of
> another TLP, then an extra migration step would still be needed but
> the difference to status quo would be minimal.
> The downside of this change would be that the term "incubator" would
> become less prominent in the day-to-day operations of a podling. The
> upside would be reduced infra overhead, less community trouble caused
> by migrations and simplified incubation documentation (no need to
> distinguish between podling and TLP state in so many places).
> WDYT? If there's interest (and not many objections), we could try out
> the idea with a few upcoming podlings to see how it works in practice.
> BR,
> Jukka Zitting
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