From general-return-34055-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Feb 3 18:38:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3173D9F08 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10626 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2012 18:38:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 10417 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2012 18:38:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 10409 invoked by uid 99); 3 Feb 2012 18:38:30 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:38:30 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.149.139.105] (HELO mail.jpl.nasa.gov) (128.149.139.105) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:38:22 +0000 Received: from mail.jpl.nasa.gov (altvirehtstap01.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.72]) by smtp.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q13Ic0Pr029726 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:38:00 -0800 Received: from ALTPHYEMBEVSP20.RES.AD.JPL ([128.149.137.83]) by ALTVIREHTSTAP01.RES.AD.JPL ([128.149.137.72]) with mapi; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:38:00 -0800 From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:42:27 -0800 Subject: Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"? Thread-Topic: Incubator, or "Incubation"? Thread-Index: AcziovQsK6JCKfqSScmbYhnUbtu6GQ== Message-ID: <64142F87-1865-4C15-B53A-9B6AD40237A1@jpl.nasa.gov> References: <1327968403.68805.YahooMailNeo@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4F28548C.6090701@apache.org> <17F2EE41-9488-43D6-AFBD-2292FC416948@gbiv.com> <25C5AE77-6949-493E-BBD5-EB20869A265E@jpl.nasa.gov> <4F29BBEE.20700@apache.org> <4F29CA2B.8090106@rowe-clan.net> <93BCFEE3-1177-48D0-B014-2E0C75AB799D@jpl.nasa.gov> <4F2AC71C.70603@rowe-clan.net> <4F2C2528.9070501@rowe-clan.net> In-Reply-To: <4F2C2528.9070501@rowe-clan.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Source-IP: altvirehtstap01.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.72] X-Source-Sender: chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Authorized X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hey Bill, On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:19 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/3/2012 11:11 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >>> Below is *precisely* my view on the matter. Bill annoys me sometimes >>> :-P, but I have to say that I'm in 100% concurrence with him w.r.t >>> thoughts/positioning below. >>=20 >> While I agree that in an ideal world that's how things *ought* to >> operate, do we the name of a potential chair who is ready, willing, >> and able to execute on such? >=20 > Chris is clearly willing, he authored the plan. +1. >=20 > Moreso, there are those of us who would support him in execution of > such an effort. Thanks a lot. >=20 > But is he willing to stay the 6 months beyond dissolving the IPMC as the > VP, Project Incubation if the board believes such a post is necessary, > particularly if the board hasn't convinced him of its value? I can't > answer for him, but I trust there will be enough participants for the > board to select a different individual if 1) it wants that post beyond > dissolution of "IPMC", and 2) Chris can't bring himself to continue. Yeah to be honest, I have 2 other officer positions (OODT + Tika)=20 and am active in a lot of other projects. So as today, I'd say, if you=20 want that VP, Incubation role (as the dude who will execute the plan, and who will be accountable for it) to continue beyond 6 months,=20 then I would likely have to be replaced then. But who knows what 6 months time will bring anyways with respect to my feelings. Dunno. I like your attitude though -- if I need to be replaced then, replace me. No biggie. >=20 > That particular inflection point is quite a ways down the road, even > in the fastest of plans to begin adopting "Foo Project, Incubating" TLPs. +1, precisely. Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org