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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)
Date Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:41:28 GMT
On 4 February 2012 01:47, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> On Feb 3, 2012 4:27 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <
>>> wrote:


> if you'll recall Jim's message
> to the members in the past 2 years about "internal belly gazing" or
> "navel" gazing or whatever the word was when he was talking
> about the foundation as a whole and how even though there
> have been little blips over the years, it's still largely been a
> successful model.


Lets not forget that the model referred to *included* the IPMC. The
IPMC once had a useful function, it was a safety net for fledgling

My main message after reading this reply is to ask you to take the
weekend off. Have a think about what I have been saying.  In most of
my mails I have said I *like* your proposal. You are railing against
the wrong person.

What I am concerned about is not the intent but the execution. I just
don't like that your proposal pushes all the problem cases to someone
else. I like it even less that you don't seem to recognise these
problem cases exist.

You seem to think all podlings are plain sailing because you're lucky
enough to have been involved with some that are "easy" or have had
excellent mentors.  Not all are like that. If your proposal included a
higher barrier to entry and thus weeded out the hard cases then I
might see things differently. But you don't appear to be doing that
and I'm concerned that the hard cases will end up with the board who
will then seek to push it back down to ComDev.

You've now stated that you are willing to go more slowly than
originally proposed. This is a good thing. This means you will give
yourself time to find those hard cases and ensure there is a safety
net for them (or a barrier to entry, whichever is more appropriate).

Enjoy your weekend



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