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From "William A. Rowe Jr." <>
Subject Re: Evolution instead of a revolution (Was: Time to vote the chair?)
Date Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:05:08 GMT
On 2/3/2012 7:40 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> My interest goes beyond any of those topics, though.  Incubator is very
>> tedious.  Very little is resolved.  Deck chairs are shuffled.  But at
>> the end of the day, projects don't have ownership of their code, many
>> micro-managers do, we aren't necessarily creating better projects than
>> Chris's proposed structure, and the entire process and participation is
>> simply not enjoyable (except to the sadists or masochists).
> As Ross said, while the proposal gets rid of the tediousness it also removes much of
the oversight and practically all of the help and support.  

One of my problems is that most of the biggest fans of micromanagement
and endless debate here at incubator spend nearly no time looking over
the graduated projects throughout the foundation to ensure they are
being overseen.  If that doesn't happen, the ASF will suffer the death
of 1000 fractures.

This proposal suggests that every project throughout the ASF needs the
support of the ASF's members, that incubating projects simply need to
pay extra attentions to each and every one of those requirements at
first, in order to prove they are likely to succeed.  Then they can
move on to operating as a full TLP, going back to the very same resources
they enjoyed during their incubation during the rough patches.

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