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From Eric Yang <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Chukwa 0.5.0 Release Candidate 3
Date Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:58:04 GMT
Mentor could lose interests in a project over time due to various kind of reasons.  Perhaps,
It is time to deconstruct mentor idea and promote ppmc to ipmc after making incubating release(s)
and only allow incubator project to graduate after promoted ppmc has mentored another project
to make incubator release.  This will enable promoted ppmc to execrise what has been learn
and apply to other projects.  Promoted ppmc can choose to stay as ipmc or resign ipmc after
project graduation.  The only drawback is someone on ipmc would need to promote ppmc regularly.
 It is more work for infrastructure to add and remove people from ipmc.

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On Jan 26, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Ralph Goers <> wrote:

> On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 06:57:08AM -0500, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> This podling has 4 mentors listed. Only 1 voted on the release. 
>> Situations like this seem to be common.
>>> My worry isn't about the PPMC or committers but about whether this podling
>>> has sufficient mentors.
>> Perhaps the podling has an especially conscientious PPMC member or two who
>> should be evaluated for IPMC membership, as discussed recently?
>>> Mind you, I don't follow chuckwa-dev so perhaps my perception is incorrect,
>>> but a podling should normally be able to get 3 IPMC votes just from its
>>> mentors.
>> If we can't scare up enough IPMC votes for a release, why not get them from
>> people who are...
>> * familiar with the podling's ongoing development
>> * going to be entrusted with binding votes the instant the project graduates
>> ... as soon as they demonstrate proper diligence and understanding of ASF
>> procedures?
> i'd agree, but this was the podling's first release. The point have having mentors is
to get them up to speed.  
> Ralph
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