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From Daniel Shahaf <...@daniel.shahaf.name>
Subject Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings
Date Thu, 12 Jan 2012 06:47:02 GMT
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 22:35, Luciano Resende wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Franklin, Matthew B.
> <mfranklin@mitre.org> wrote:
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:niclas@hedhman.org]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:25 PM
> >>To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer
> >>Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings
> >>
> >>I like Joe's suggestion of having Mentors writing a report. But I
> >>would like the PPMC get some experience as well, since once they
> >>graduate they are tossed into the fire of producing "real" board
> >>reports on their own.
> >>
> >>Possible extension of Joe's suggestion; The PPMC produce the Board
> >>report as if they were a top level project. Mentor produce separately
> >>the "road map to graduation" report, covering what has been done, what
> >>is going on right now and what is left to do. IPMC will quickly see
> >>AWOL Mentors and which podlings need help, without taking away the
> >>"training" of the PPMC...
> >
> > From my perspective as a podling PPMC member, I disagree with this
> > approach.  From what I have learned, it is the Incubator's
> > responsibility to develop a self-sustaining community.  IMO, any
> > viable community should be responsible for managing their own
> > destiny.  Mentors should prod, poke, suggest, influence, coach and
> > verify everything the podling does, but the PPMC should be
> > responsible for developing and reporting out a graduation roadmap.
> 
> 
> 
> +1, The mentor should help, but producing the actual report should be
> a Community/PPMC responsibility.

I was thinking about this differently: mentors be responsible for
ensuring IPMC has a complete picture, but normally the PPMC members
write the reports.  (Not unlike how, in a PMC, any PMC member might
write the report but it's the Chair's responsibility to ensure it is
complete and accurate.)

> 
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> Luciano Resende
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